Comments on: Open XML: ninguém sabe o resultado, e ambos os lados clamam vitória http://br-linux.org/2008/open-xml-ninguem-sabe-o-resultado-e-ambos-os-lados-clamam-vitoria/ Linux levado a sério desde 1996 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:23:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Manoel Pinho http://br-linux.org/2008/open-xml-ninguem-sabe-o-resultado-e-ambos-os-lados-clamam-vitoria/comment-page-1/#comment-2890 Manoel Pinho Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:28:56 +0000 http://br-linux.org/2008/open-xml-ninguem-sabe-o-resultado-e-ambos-os-lados-clamam-vitoria/#comment-2890 O processo foi extremamente burocrático e muitas coisas que eram para ser discutidas parece que não foram por falta de tempo e discussões de como seria todo o processo http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2923321820080229?sp=true http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9065958 Acho que o trecho a seguir resume bem o que aconteceu e o que a MS tem que obter para ganhar a guerra caso vença essa batalha da semana passada: "Critics charge that the discussion around the 1,100 mostly esoteric technical tweaks — delivered in mid-January via a 2,300-page document by standards body Ecma International — was so perfunctory that no consensus can be drawn from it. "Eighty percent of the changes were not discussed," said Frank Farance, head of the U.S. delegation to this week's ballot resolution meeting (BRM) in ISO, which voted against the changes. "It's like if you had a massive software project and 80% of it was not run through QA. " Of the 32 participating countries, only six, including the Czech Republic and Poland, voted to approve those 900 changes. Eighteen countries, or more than half, abstained, while another four countries refused to register a vote, according to a blog of Andy Updegrove, a lawyer and open standards activist. Four countries, including the U.S. and Malaysia, according to Farance, voted not to approve those 900 changes. That, according to critics, indicates a lack of actual support for Open XML. For that to happen, Open XML must gain the support of three quarters of all ISO members that vote and two-thirds of the national standards bodies that work on a specific proposal. At the last ISO vote in September, Open XML failed on both counts, getting "yes" votes from 74% of the former group and 53% of the so-called participating members. Microsoft hopes that enough countries will change their minds in the next 30 days because of the BRM result. That could easily happen. The U.S. position has flip-flopped several times during the fast-track process that began in early 2007. Farance confirmed that the disapproval of the six-member U.S. delegation to the BRM, which actually included employees from both IBM and Microsoft, "doesn't necessarily correspond" with how the U.S. will vote in the final tally of national bodies. O processo foi extremamente burocrático e muitas coisas que eram para ser discutidas parece que não foram por falta de tempo e discussões de como seria todo o processo

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2923321820080229?sp=true

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9065958

Acho que o trecho a seguir resume bem o que aconteceu e o que a MS tem que obter para ganhar a guerra caso vença essa batalha da semana passada:

“Critics charge that the discussion around the 1,100 mostly esoteric technical tweaks — delivered in mid-January via a 2,300-page document by standards body Ecma International — was so perfunctory that no consensus can be drawn from it.

“Eighty percent of the changes were not discussed,” said Frank Farance, head of the U.S. delegation to this week’s ballot resolution meeting (BRM) in ISO, which voted against the changes. “It’s like if you had a massive software project and 80% of it was not run through QA. ”

Of the 32 participating countries, only six, including the Czech Republic and Poland, voted to approve those 900 changes. Eighteen countries, or more than half, abstained, while another four countries refused to register a vote, according to a blog of Andy Updegrove, a lawyer and open standards activist.

Four countries, including the U.S. and Malaysia, according to Farance, voted not to approve those 900 changes.

That, according to critics, indicates a lack of actual support for Open XML.

For that to happen, Open XML must gain the support of three quarters of all ISO members that vote and two-thirds of the national standards bodies that work on a specific proposal. At the last ISO vote in September, Open XML failed on both counts, getting “yes” votes from 74% of the former group and 53% of the so-called participating members.

Microsoft hopes that enough countries will change their minds in the next 30 days because of the BRM result.

That could easily happen. The U.S. position has flip-flopped several times during the fast-track process that began in early 2007.

Farance confirmed that the disapproval of the six-member U.S. delegation to the BRM, which actually included employees from both IBM and Microsoft, “doesn’t necessarily correspond” with how the U.S. will vote in the final tally of national bodies.

]]> By: Deivi http://br-linux.org/2008/open-xml-ninguem-sabe-o-resultado-e-ambos-os-lados-clamam-vitoria/comment-page-1/#comment-2889 Deivi Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:54:55 +0000 http://br-linux.org/2008/open-xml-ninguem-sabe-o-resultado-e-ambos-os-lados-clamam-vitoria/#comment-2889 O que ocorreu em Genebra não foi a votação se o Openxml vai ser aprovado ou não, mas sim uma reunião técnica para tentar resolver os problemas levantados até então. Quem participa deste tipo de reunião não pode contar nada sobre ela, mas posso adiantar que a reunião foi muito ruim. De reunião técnica não teve praticamente nada, aliás, como está acontecendo em todo este processo. O que existe no momento é um prazo de 30 dias após o BRM para que, caso algum país queira mudar seu voto, comunique a ISO. Deivi O que ocorreu em Genebra não foi a votação se o Openxml vai ser aprovado ou não, mas sim uma reunião técnica para tentar resolver os problemas levantados até então. Quem participa deste tipo de reunião não pode contar nada sobre ela, mas posso adiantar que a reunião foi muito ruim. De reunião técnica não teve praticamente nada, aliás, como está acontecendo em todo este processo.

O que existe no momento é um prazo de 30 dias após o BRM para que, caso algum país queira mudar seu voto, comunique a ISO.

Deivi

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